One was the night I went to Sun City and I was off duty but I was in police uniform, the same uniform, and I met some wonderful, wonderful Americans in this crowd, all of them over 65 years of age, and some looked very much older than that, 85, 90 years of age, some of them there were. And I spent an hour with these people talking about crime prevention and how they could protect themselves and their homes and their wives and their property. And it went very, very well. And I just loved doing that and helping people out. It was off-duty time, I wasn't getting paid for it, but there was a need there. So in the back of the room, it wasn't a room this big, I imagine there was forty people there, maybe forty-five or fifty. During that hour I saw an elderly gentleman, very, very frail. He looked like he was sleeping during the whole program.

I kept looking around at this man, and he looked like he was sleeping through the whole program. That happens occasionally with the elderly, so I didn't let it bother me too much. So I went on with the program, and then at the end I said to the group, are there any questions? All of a sudden this little bony arm goes in the air and starts waving at me like this. I said, Yes, sir, do you have a question? He said, Yes. Sonny? He said, Sonny?

I'm looking bad. I'm a police officer. I'm an authority figure here. He calls me Sonny. I'm thinking, boy. He says, Sonny, do you know the law? I hesitated for a minute and I thought, here I've been talking to this group for an hour about the law and about the criminal justice system. What is this? He's asking me if I know the law. But I didn't say this, I was thinking it to myself. I said, yes sir, I think I know the law. I don't know anybody knows all the law, but I think I know it pretty good. What's your question? And he says, did you take an oath when you become a police officer?

And I said, well yes, I sure do. I took an oath on the first day. He says, well, what's in that oath? What did you say? I said, well, it's very much like the one I took in the service. I swore, I raised my right hand, I swore to protect the Constitution of the United States, the people, their rights, and their property, and so forth. He says, and you know the law. I said, yeah, what's your question? And I was getting a little irritated, I didn't know where he was going, and he says, what's the sixth amendment to the Constitution?

And I hesitated, and I looked at him and I think, boy, we must have had that in the academy, but I couldn't think. And I said, I'm sorry, sir, I don't know. He says, what's the fourth amendment to the Constitution? And I said, now I know I had that in the academy, what is it? I didn't know the answer. And so he asked me, what's the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution? What's the Seventh Amendment? He went on down like this, and I finally said to him, I was getting so embarrassed. I was really starting to sweat and I was starting to get a little bit upset because I had this group in the palm of my hand. Things were going real well, and who is this guy back here, grueling me and embarrassing me and making me feel so dumb?" And I said, Sir, let me stop you.

I said, I don't know the answers to your questions. I said, I'm sorry, but I know the laws of the city of Phoenix, I know the laws of the state, I know, ask me some of those questions. He said, no, no, no. So Sonny says, to protect our rights, how can you protect our rights if you don't even know what they are? I'll tell you, if a Christian could hate, I hated that old man. I'd always heard about pistol whipping, and I thought this might be the appropriate time. I felt so low, I can't tell you how embarrassed that made me feel. And I was upset. It ruined my whole evening. I left that room trying to smile, and I left there, I was so low, lower than a snake's belly. I really felt low. So all the way back to Phoenix, and it was about a 45 minute drive back to Phoenix, I was fuming. I'm saying, oh my goodness, I haven't been embarrassed like that in so long. And do you know what?

For 30 days, just about four weeks, that kept coming back to haunt me, and I would be out in my police car, I'd be out doing all these other things, and I'd still be fuming about that little old man that destroyed me in front of that group in Sun City. And I couldn't understand it. At night I would pray, I'd say, Lord, let me forget about this, let me get beyond this because it's really got me aggravated. And then one night, about four weeks later, I prayed hard to the Lord. I said, Lord, this is troubling me. I want to get it behind me, help me get it out of my mind because I don't want to have a vengeful heart and I want to get on with things and I didn't understand why it was eating me up. It was just eating me up. And so the next morning I woke up after I prayed that night and all of a sudden my mind was opened up. And it was amazing. I said to myself, the reason I am so mad is that that man is absolutely right.

And so I went to work that day and I got a hold of my sergeant and I said, Sergeant, I've got to talk to you. He saw I was upset and he said, Come on in my office, come on over here. He said, Jack, what's the matter? Sit down. So I sat down and I said, Sergeant, I have been troubled for a month over something that happened to me out in the sunset. I didn't tell you about it, but I want to ask you something. Did you have me raise my right hand and swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States and protect the people's rights?

That was a part of my oath. Why did you have me swear to that and I don't even know what it is?" And he said to me, Jack, that's just the way we do it. I put my head down for a minute, and when I looked up I said, Sergeant, that is not a good answer. I said, I'm going home and I'm going to read the Constitution, and I'm going to find out what I swore to. It's my oath. I want to know what I swore to, and I'm not going to be put in that position again. So he just kind of looked at me funny, and I walked out of the room. I went home, and I had a hard time finding the Constitution. I went to the library and I had a hard time finding it. But we finally found a book that had the Bill of Rights and the Constitution in it in our local library in South Phoenix.

I lived in South Phoenix, too, at this time. It wasn't a big library, but you'd think they'd have the Constitution in it. And so we found it, and I took it home and I studied that document for several weeks and I looked up words because I didn't know what everything meant, but I was awestruck. I was shocked at what I read and some of the things that I had been doing for over three years were a matter of practice with us trying to learn and teaching each other, and we were taught in the academy how to get around giving people their rights, and how to get, when people demand this, how to sneak around it and come in the back door. And I was appalled, simply appalled, that I was violating my oath of office, that I probably ought to be doing something else.

So I went back to work and I started applying the things that I had learned. And immediately I fell out of grace. I was the boy wonder. I was destined for stardom. The chief wanted me for his son. I mean, I was big cheese around there, and I was going to move up through the ranks very shortly. I'd be taking the test for sergeants, lieutenants, and everything, and I was happy. I was pleased. job which was to me a great profession for those that love people. And I wanted to be a police officer. It had been good to me and I thought I was cut out to work in this type of profession. The last thing I wanted to do is alienate myself from the career I love so much.

But we've got to take a break here now, so I just will cut here, but I want to tell you that what I'm going to tell you next is what happens to your local officers when they finally realize that they're not obeying their oath of office. And if they're good officers and I can reach them and educate them like happened to me, and they say, I need to live by my oath, I need to support the people and not just be a protector of government, I need to be a protector of the people. And I'm going to get into that as soon as we come back from a little break here. I think I understood that right. Somebody held up a sign, 15 minute break sign, is that right? Okay, that's fine.

This is a good time to break. I've gone through. Okay. Thanks. Outside that can hear me, come on back in if you can. What did you say, ma'am? I don't have too much more time to finish up my program, so I need to get on with it. Let's just go ahead and start, then. I think it's been about three or four minutes. Before I quit here, I was talking about the dilemma this officer found himself in.

When I realized my oath of office, I was violating the actual oath that I took to you, the people of our country, and that was never my intention. I just didn't know that I was doing things in violation of that oath. And if you ever think about that you can't make a difference because you're just one person, and we hear that all the time, not so much among ourselves because the people in this room are pretty much activists, but among your friends and my friends that really don't understand what we're all about in trying to save this nation, we hear all the time, I can't make a difference, I'm just one person. What I'm about to tell you, keep in mind the things that have happened to me and the things I've been able to do with a lot of your help since this little old man, 85 years of age, raised his hand and embarrassed me by starting my education.

Think of what he did as I go through this. I don't even know who he is. I don't know if I'll ever know who that man is, but I owe him a whole lot. lot and a lot of police officers around this country that are now receiving my material and learning and sharing it with other police officers, they owe that little man a whole lot. And so if you think you don't make a difference, that just those few questions that night changed my life and it's changed the life of a lot of people. And he'll probably never know what he did for me and what he did for his country by having the nerve to embarrass me in front of that group of people that night and convict my soul to find out why I was not aware of these laws that he talked about that were vital.

So let me go on now. I found out that there was a serious, serious problem not just within me but within my department. And it laid on my heart so heavy, folks, I had to talk to somebody about it. I didn't know who to talk to about it. I talked to my sergeant about it, and he just couldn't understand it. He was scared about the things I talked to him about because he couldn't see how I could function as a police officer if I was going to uphold my oath of office. He couldn't understand it. And I couldn't understand it. I'm thinking, boy, I'm taking on the world. I'm taking on the police world if I'm going to change and uphold my oath of office. What a tragedy! What a tragedy! And so I was so frustrated one night, I said, I've got to tell somebody about this. So I sat down, and once again, I'm not a writer, but I wrote out two pages of how I felt in my heart about being one of the most highly decorated officers Arizona had ever seen and praised about my work and all these things, and yet I was doing things unlawful.

There's no other way to look at it. If I was violating my oath and the laws of the Constitution of the United States and violating your rights, I was a lawbreaker. And that set on me very heavily, and so I wrote one night, I wrote two pages of what I thought in my heart about what I had found out, what was in the Constitution and how it affected me when I found out that I was being led weekly to violate that oath. When I finished writing that two pages, I labeled it, A Lawman Speaks for Liberty. I don't know, that just came to me. I was thinking that I was violating people's liberty, and I'm talking about it, so the name came to me.

It was a couple of weeks later that someone encouraged me to mail this out to certain publications around the country and see if they wouldn't print it. So I did that. I did quite a big mail out, I think to about 50 or 60 publications around the country. I mailed this thing, A Lawman Speaks for Liberty. It was weeks went by and nothing happened. No one would print it. I called some of the companies I'd sent it to. They couldn't understand the ravings of a police officer in Phoenix, Arizona. They didn't understand it, what I was talking about.

What oath? I mean, what constitution? I mean, they went through the same brain laundry I did in the school system, and we didn't learn these things. And so all of a sudden, mail started coming in. I think it was the third week. I started getting letters from police officers and private citizens all over the country. I didn't know what happened. But in a few of the letters, they told me that a national publication had published my letter, A Lawman Speaks for Liberty.

I started hearing from police officers that said, Jack, I felt this way for a number of years and I had no one to talk to about it. I thought I was crazy, I thought I was off base, but I've not felt good about this. I'm so pleased you wrote about this and I know there's somebody else in America in law enforcement that's had the same convictions that I've had. What do we do about it? We would start to exchange information and write. What came out of this, I received over a hundred letters from across the country. People kept telling me, a lot of my fellow officers, Jack, write some more about this. Do some more because I want to print this up and give it out at my briefing station at work.

Mothers would write to me and say, my son is a police officer and I want permission to duplicate this. I said, Go ahead, if you want to, print it up and just hand it out anywhere you want. So people began to do that, and police officers began to do that, and I started getting more and more letters, more and more mail. I began to feel better because I realized that although we had a terrible problem in government and in law enforcement particularly, I didn't know about all the other things we're talking about here today. I'm just getting educated now. I'm just cracking open what turned out to be a real box of worms when I finally found out all the problems America is having.

But I was just seeing a little view of it. But to me that was a terrible view of police officers doing these things and not even knowing they were doing it. So what happened then is a number of people asked me to continue to write, and so I did. I started writing my thoughts down, and as I studied more, I read the Jury Handbook, I read the Constitution Explained, and a couple of other pretty old books about the Constitution and the Federalist Papers and things like that. People would tell me, well, read this, read that. So my education process started with one little man that had the nerve to stand up to a police officer and say, you better check this thing out, you know, that you, you're wrong, you know, by not knowing the laws that you swore to protect and uphold. So out of this was born a publication, the first vehicle for law enforcement officers to discuss things that we were never allowed to discuss, most of us didn't know about.

I started publishing a little publication that I labeled Aid and Abet Newsletter. The reason I named it Aid and Abet Newsletter, Constitutional Issues for Police Officers, is because it was a name that fit because I felt in my heart that I was aiding and abetting the destruction of my nation." So that's where that name came from. I started mailing this out to people and they said, send it to us, we'll duplicate it and hand it out at our police department and everything. So it began to grow. But something else began to grow. I told you how much I loved my profession. I loved helping people.

I wasn't in it for the money. You don't be a police officer for the money, that's for sure. You've got to care a little bit about what you're doing. I didn't want to cause any waves. My career was doing well. But after I started publishing that newsletter, chiefs of police around this nation began to write to my chief and say, Who is this guy, McLam? I don't want McLam writing to my police officers. Our officers are beginning to ask questions. And my chief couldn't understand. Here Jack McLam was a rising star in Phoenix, Arizona in the police department. What is this quirk that this guy has got to uphold his oath of office? He didn't understand. And so I really began to have some bad problems with management within my department. Now none of this did I do, none of my writing, none of my phone calling, anything with people did I do while I was on duty.

This was just private convictions, religious and moral and political convictions of my own. And of course it did have an effect on my job performance because some things I refused to do from then on. And let me tell you, when certain people came into our community, like the federal agents who are my brother agents, with warrants and things like that, they had problems with Jack McClam because they didn't have their paperwork right, I wouldn't help them, and they need my help as the authority in the area to go into homes and do these things. You notice why they always bring a local cop with them, because they have no authority in that area.

And they began to get real concerned, because if I spread the word to other officers that there are problems with pocket summonses and various things they are used to using, warrantless searches and all these things, if the officers ever catch on to this, they are going to have a difficult time doing things in the community that they are used to doing. to do it. So the newsletter began to spread and officers began to write and write and write and we would exchange information and I was able to keep my thumb on the heartbeat of what's going on in law enforcement across the nation. But I found that my career potential had ended. This disturbed me very, very much because I loved what I was doing I want to continue. But one day the chief came to me and says Jack we have a complaint in Colorado from a police chief. And we want your entire mailing list of police officers around the country that receive your newsletter. And I said Chief Ortega I said. I can't give that to you.

He said, well I'm making it an official order that you give me that mailing list of police officers around the country. I said, Chief, I'm being subjected to things because of my beliefs, moral, religious, and political beliefs that I'm putting in that newsletter, and I don't want to see my fellow officers that are on that mailing list subjected to the same kind of things I'm going through. And so I refused to give it to you under the First Amendment. I used the right to association under the First Amendment as my sounding board, and I said, No, I will not give it to you." And so I was fired that day. And it was probably one of the worst days of my life, because I had to turn in my badge and my gun, and that's a disgrace, away, I went away and two weeks later a very dear friend of mine who is sitting in the back of the room, who is the reason Aiden Abette goes out all the time, Theresa Huebner, I don't know if Theresa is back there right now or not, but she came with me from Phoenix and she is my right arm in this publication. Two weeks later she got a group of people people in the United States, a huge county, 9,200 square miles, which the city of Phoenix is in the middle of.

So the sheriff would have authority over Chief Ortega. Evidently, the Lord didn't mean it to be, but it was an exhilarating situation and the chief was absolutely livid because he couldn't believe that the guy he fired, this notorious Jack McLam, Officer McLam, would possibly be his boss. And so he was exhilarated when I lost by a few votes to a Navy commander who looked better in that beautiful white outfit and that saber than what I looked in my uniform. He was a handsome guy, he's a very fine person, but he knew nothing about law enforcement. But that's the way politics go. That's why I said politics go. I don't like politics particularly because the way I look at it, poly means numerous and tics So I didn't win the election and during that time a fantastic thing happened. A very liberal civil service board in the city of Phoenix, Arizona, the head of the civil service board for the city was the head of the Arizona Bar Association, a very liberal person, said Jack McLean as a police officer has a First Amendment right to think and to write like he wants to and they put me back to work.

They gave me my job back. So I went on publishing and I went back to work. Of course, I was assigned to the walking beat in the South Mountains in Phoenix by the chief when I returned. He took me out of my job. At that time before I left, I was the intelligence officer for the gang squad for the whole city of Phoenix. He took me out of that job that I worked very hard for and made me a beat officer, which I love. I love being a beat officer, but just to punish me, he put me on midnight and put me on a walking beat way out in the boonies. And so that's okay. But I got my badge back and I was able to go out and serve the people again for a short time, because then a vendetta started. When I won my job back, I was to be ostracized and I was to be followed for nine months by a sergeant being paid $45,000 a year to do nothing but follow me day and night when I was off duty, on duty, and make book on me, try to find anything that this officer did wrong in his private life or anything.

find anything. So what they did was I was injured seriously in 81 in a altercation arresting a dope addict and an illegal alien in the commission of a crime. And so I had a right shoulder injury and the chief fired me for being off work because of this on duty injury. He said I had poor job performance and he fired me a second time. So they came out again, took my badge and everything. We went through the whole process again. And the Civil Service Board once again says it's a vendetta, it's about the newsletter, and we're putting him back to work. So once again they put me back to work. Praise the Lord. So very shortly I became the most highly decorated officer in the history of Phoenix, Arizona and the most fired officer in the history of Phoenix, Arizona. But a lieutenant told me one day, he says, Jack, you are not a citizen.

You will have to choose between being a citizen or being a police officer. If you want a right, you cannot do it and be a police officer. And I told the lieutenant, I said, Lieutenant, I remember what I had to give up to become a police officer. And it was considerable to be a police officer, but I will never, ever give up my right to my citizenship in the United States. Well, the chief, I went back to work and this time he decided that he had a new game plan. He said if McLam is going to keep writing to officers and get him excited and have other chiefs of police and sheriffs write to me and condemn me for not being able to shut up Jack McLam and have him leave the officers alone and quit asking those embarrassing questions and so forth from around the nation. I guess he had it rough police chiefs all over the country are right to intend to get me silence me somehow.

So he decided that being I had an injury that he would keep me on the street. The city doctors told him to take me off the street and I reentered my shoulder injury seven times in the next few years and I started losing the use of my right arm. And he he the doctor said the city doctor said put him in detectives or something for a couple of years till he can heal up. But the chief had a plan. He knew I would either be killed or be so severely injured that I'd have to leave the department. And in 1986 that is actually what That's exactly what happened. I was seriously injured again because I couldn't fight the fight that I was used to. The city doctors made me take a medical retirement. So that's Just one officer that decided that his oath of office was more important than his profession. So, um... I lost the profession. I lost the profession, but I'll tell you, it's been such a blessing to me in other ways, ways because today thanks to you folks out here and people like you across the country we are reaching literally thousands of police officers with educational material like they've never seen before about their oath of office and it's growing on a geometric progression because you folks when you get a traffic ticket you get the name of the police officer or if you have relatives that are police officers, you are sending me the name and you are sending me an address and sometimes you send me money and I start educating and I start sending material out to that officer.

It's working on a geometric progression because when you get one officer educated, he starts telling others within his briefing station and it just begins to grow. Because unbeknownst to a lot of patriots that think officers are purposely the way they are sometimes, they're not. They were trained to be aggressive, they were trained that they're above you and they're your supervisors, and they need to be educated just like everyone in this room had to have somebody make the first contact, like me and the little man in Sun City. It took somebody to step out and say, hey, you need this. One thing that's been a blessing is the fact that if you go to your doctor and you try to tell your doctor how to treat your injuries, you don't do half as well as if another doctor comes in and tells them the same thing.

The doctor will believe the other doctor. If you have to go to your lawyer, God forbid, but if you go to your lawyer and you try to tell that lawyer how to try your case, you don't do nearly as well as if another lawyer comes in and tells that officer or that lawyer the same thing you told them. But the same thing happens with police officers. If you have a police officer that's giving you a rough time or needs education, which most of them do, there's 600,000 armed street soldiers out there, and we just hit just a small amount of those people, but we're growing. And with your help, if you keep sending me names and let me know who these people are we're going to get the job done.

And I want to before I get into the the investigation we're doing into the National Police Force let me read you a letter here a couple letters that came in not too long ago because of you somebody sent me the names of these police officers and this officer here sent me this letter March 18 1990. He said, Dear Officer McLean, in February this year I was checking a code 7 at a local restaurant, that's lunch break, when a lady approached my table, introduced herself, said something I did not understand, laid down some papers on my table and walked away. He says she hurried away. I picked up the paper, she was out the door, and found that it was a newsletter written by yourself to police officers. I would have thrown it away except for the fact that you were a fellow police officer. I found the material very interesting but I do not know if I believe all that you say about the problems facing our nation in the next decade. I would like to know how I can confirm this information for myself. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Deputy Sheriff L.A.

deputy sheriff, LA County, Los Angeles County. That's the way it works. You are the ones that initiate the education of these police officers. If you have trouble getting information in their hands, let me do it for you, because I can empathize. They can relate with me. If I say, look at this, read this, they're liable to do it much quicker than if you say, look at this and read this. I own his door jack. Now this guy had called me a traitor from within. He called me all kinds of names sometime before this, and I had started to send him information. Although he called me names, which happens many times, brother officers will write to me and say, I think you're crazy, you don't know what you're talking about, you're a traitor to us, but prove it to me.

If it's true, prove it to me. And that's a good communication. I love those, because the person is saying to me, I'm open, show me. And so we do, and this is one of those officers, and he says here, Dear Jack, think of the power of this. Several weeks ago I was able to put my newfound knowledge to work when our fellow officers from ATF, that's Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, came to town. I was asked to participate in the search of a local farmer's home for automatic weapons. Upon my arrival, I asked the federal officers for their warrant." Very unusual, very unusual. And I'm sure the officer is going, what? Why? And they're starting to question him. But he says, they were reluctant and finally handed me their copy and I took a moment to examine the paperwork. I won't bore you with the details, however I found several errors in the first two pages. My newfound knowledge almost cost me a reprimand from my department after I told the Federal officers to pack up, leave the scene, and not to return until their paperwork was in order.

Can you believe that? Can you believe it? Praise the Lord! Just recently I started attending the local constitutional meeting, and I will let you know how it goes. It works! It works! Let me tell you, if you don't think 600,000 armed people in every community throughout America that could possibly be misled and misused one day against you is important to reach, I don't know what you're thinking about.

I think everybody in this room knows these people are important to reach, because I will say this, and it hurts me to say it, but if we don't reach them, if we don't turn some of these guns, and I think of it as turning the guns from the head of the eagle and point it to the true enemies of America. We may one day have to fight those very people. So I encourage you I encourage you to please take some of our literature with you and help us get these things in the hands of the right people. Now let me go in briefly the National Police Force situation. This is terrible but a lot of us realize that back during the LEAA time when LEAA was exposed by the John Birch Society, you remember the help your local police and keep them independent or something like that, the bumper stickers, some of you will remember that. Support your local police and keep them independent. Well during those times when those bumper stickers were out the LEAA was trying to form a national police force and the way they were doing it is to standardize everything between every department throughout the United States and if they could get everything standardized it was only a short step for any authority to step in and run the whole thing, because everything was standardized. Police tactics, laws of arrest, paperwork, everything was standardized.

God bless them, the John Birch Society at that time were activists. I'm concerned today because a lot of good people and good friends of mine are not being told to get out and do things like they used to do. So I don't know what's happening there. But at that time they were activists and boy they jumped on that and they saw to it that LEAA's plan was exposed and what they did, the government then said LEAA went away. We got rid of it folks, don't worry, no national police force, none of those things, calmed down and they pacified the citizens once again. LEAA did not go away, it moved under something called FEMA and most of you recognize that name today and it's very alive and well. But they were no longer going to attempt to have the federal government set up the National Police Force. So for years now we've been watching and looking for a return visit to this program, and we haven't been able to find it. Well, we've now found it, and it's very much being In your area, keep a watch on the news and keep a watch on your police agencies that become involved with something called CALEA.

Have you heard of CALEA in your area? and go to the next tape.