So they step him down and they put him over international development yet, to send him back to South Africa. Well, what happened? Mr. Binder then appointed himself as head of the School of Science. In other words, so he could continue to steal it and use it. Well, I have two very strong parties objecting to this usurpation of their property. One is Walter Russell and one is Nikola Tesla. Well, I can't produce the habeas corpus. let them do their own tinkering. And they are. And Timothy Binder has made another bad blunder. He's gone on internet and he advertises all his stuff and calls himself, to this day, to this week, anyway, the President of USNP so that he gets the authority to do this. And guess what? His web page, whatever you call these little rooms, whatever you call what you pull up, it isn't USNP.

It's Timothy Binder's web page. And yeah, we have copies, if that's the next question. Let's go on with this. We, we, oh wow. Mullins says, I think it might be the broken leg. I have a question about this paragraph 13. There, there's a distinction between works that they say they are the lawful owner of and works they say they had been the lawful owner of? Does that mean that those copyrights have lapsed? Well, I can't answer it. I don't know. That's a very interesting point. Why would they say had been? If they either are or they're not. Well, I think they're probably trying to cover the fact that they let one lapse. And you see, at the point of signing this, it didn't matter. I'll tell you, I didn't, man, I didn't dare even mention Walter Russell, Secrets of Light.

I couldn't even say, God is light. Dorma, turn off. Boy, that typewriter stopped dead still. and any of you other people who butted into this. And we gave Walter Russell, oh, I shouldn't do this. But they're all just, now we've got a voice here, and Walter of all of them, the most damaged out of this, and the most giving one human being you're going to run into, wouldn't you know? He came out of the Russell family of England? I mean that's bad enough without having to get into anything else.

And here he is, a maverick, beautiful, beautiful human being, gifted in every way you can imagine, gentle, he is the epitome to me of what you would call a gentleman, really, truly. And here we, out of just service, become such a focus of such So we had quite a period of time, we even allowed, when they say no credit, those of you who were there will remember the judge asking, well what is it you want of the opposing counsel? Do you want more credit? Oh no! We just don't want any reference to ourselves with this bunch of cult members. Oh, well, you just said that Mr. Russell got his material from a higher source, and they say they have. Oh, yes, but Mr. Russell got his from God, and they get theirs from E.T.'s, It was absolute bedlam in the courtroom while everybody rolled on the floor in laughter, especially the clerks who finally made sure that the order got to the judge for signature.

They had even given Walter Russell the front cover of being an author of the material that was in regards to himself. Well, boy, that had to go first of all. You don't want to lump Walter Russell in the same category as Esau, Emmanuel, Sonon, the Jesus God. So it has been an interesting case and if you people don't surpass the Scopes trial with it, I'm going to be disappointed. And I want Gene to be able to participate enough to get up there and win the case and enjoy the notoriety. And Gene just got called out of the room. Good.

Yes. Non-accountability or green. Number 14, USP will not hold nor seek to hold the Eckers accountable for any actions taken by George Green, Desiree Green, America West Publishers Inc. or America West Distributors Inc., collectively the Greens. Now, you see you can't get my breath. Everything in this document was supplied by George Green. So they've broken their own agreement. They have held the Eckers accountable for what George Green has supplied them. Go on.

Collectively, the Greens, with respect to the works of Walter Russell, absent some evidence from a source other than the Greens, their employees or agents, that the Eckers conspired with or acted in concert with the Greens. Non-disclosure of depositions. Number 15. USP and the Eckers will not disclose and will keep confidential any and all depositions taken in this case and any and all information obtained in those depositions, absent court order. USP will not provide any assistance, information, or cooperation to George Green, Desiree Green, or any entity owned in whole or in part by them in litigation concerning the Eckers, absent lawful subpoena.

The Eckers recognize that USP has previously released copies of some depositions of the Eckers to George Green and may have discussed information from the depositions with other individuals. Nothing contained in this paragraph shall preclude USP from using information obtained in depositions for purposes of pursuing enforcement of any contempt orders or stipulated judgments filed in this matter, in the event of any such contempt orders as provided elsewhere in this agreement. Miscellaneous provisions. here and this is to use this for anyone who might actually in the future in the near future have any way of contacting Desiree. If in fact she has either left George or is on an extended vacation trip away from him, is shrewd, but I don't know that she's as shrewd as the gentleman who never told her anything and will be trying to get everything that he has stashed in her name away from her. So I would hope the word does go out to warn Desiree that if it's in her name she better not relinquish it because their marriage will not last, has not lasted, but she will lose everything if she doesn't get it and keep it in protection.

And I would have a feeling that that's why she's taking an extended vacation away. But he thought he was so smart, man, he was outsmarting everybody he had everything stashed you know that they could get to in her name and leaving her to hold a bag. Attorneys fees and costs. If any action arbitration or motion is commenced to enforce any claim, demand, debt, action, cause of action, liability, cost, or obligation released hereby, or if any action or motion is commenced to enforce any provision of this agreement, or to enforce the terms of the stipulated permanent injunction described above, the prevailing party in any such action or motion shall be entitled, in addition to any and all other remedies allowed by law or equity, to an award of reasonable attorney's fees, disbursements, and costs. The provisions of this paragraph do not apply to any action, motion, or efforts by USP to file, enforce, or execute upon the stipulated money judgments referred to in paragraph 6.

but each party to this agreement shall bear their own attorney's fees and costs to date. Number 17, free speech rights. Other than the limitations imposed on the Eckers and USP pursuant to the stipulated permanent injunction described in paragraph 5 above, nothing in this agreement can be construed as limiting the free speech rights of the Eckers or USP. Okay, now look how clever these jerks are. Now that sounds good, doesn't it? It gives you the right of free speech and all, is it not to even be construed other, you know, in this agreement, other than it might have been present in the permanent injunction. So wait till you get to the permanent injunction. 18. Documents construed together. This agreement and any further documents that may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this agreement are a single agreement pertaining to a common subject and are to be construed together as a whole to determine the complete contract and agreement among the parties here to. Entire agreement. The agreement contains the entire parties hereto.

Entire Agreement. The agreement contains the entire agreement of the parties hereto with respect to the subject matter contained in this document. There are no restrictions, promises, warranties, representations, or undertakings other than those expressly set forth in this writing and any further documents as may be necessary to effectuate the terms of this agreement. There are no other understandings or representations, oral or written, pertaining to the subject matter of this agreement. And each party acknowledges it he she has not relied upon any representations, promises or agreements not contained in this written instrument, including the attached exhibits.

This agreement may be amended or modified only by a written instrument executed by all parties hereto. Number 20, Agreement Voluntary. Each of the parties expressly represents that the party assigning has carefully read each provision of this agreement, that each party knows and understands each of the provisions of this agreement and its effect, and that each party freely signs and executes this agreement without compulsion, coercion, or influence whatsoever, binding on successors. Weren't they ordered by the judge to sign this stuff? No, this is the one who explains all this to you and who did in fact explain that, oh well we already know what the temporary injunction is, don't worry about that, you know, it's going to be appended here if you agree to it.

And we'll go on and on and on, $50,000 more if you don't agree to it. Obviously, you're not going to even remember what the temporary injunction was from two years before. And it's not going to matter anyway, because we're just all so happy, living happily ever after, and we're not going to hold you guilty, or you're not going to hold us guilty. It's that sort of thing. You, this is exactly what Scott Tips has gotten himself into with Judge Chapin, with the ability to say, well, you know, I believe Mr. Tips is guilty of, well, he might as well have said it, of malpractice right here. He sold his people out.

We reinforce that by signing another order about the in limine thing. Don't you have a case right here against Terry Gross? Of course you do. Binding on successors. The parties agree that this agreement shall be binding upon their respective successors, heirs, representatives and assigns and shall inure to the benefit of the parties, their agents, employees, representatives, officers, directors, shareholders, attorneys, and personal representatives of the parties in each of them. Number 22. California law governs. This agreement shall be brought in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of California Fresno Division. Number 23, counterparts. This agreement may be signed in counterparts to facilitate execution and performance of the terms and conditions hereof. Dated and Actually it was dated, signed by us January 28, 1995, being effective December 1, 1994.

Next item is the Exhibit A, I believe it was, called the Stipulation for Entry of Permanent Injunction. called the stipulation for entry of permanent injunction. E.J. Eckerd Orsaker and the University of Science and Philosophy hereby stipulate and agree that this court, immediately upon filing of this signed stipulation with the court, may enter an order of permanent injunction constituting a binding final judgment of this court, and which will contain the following verbatim provisions. 1. Doris Ecker, E. J. Ecker, and their separate agents, here and after collectively, the Eckers, agree to refrain from any aspect of the commercial distribution and or commercial use of AIDS, the last great plague, murder by atomic suicide, God said, Let there be light, and creation became, and I and my Father are one, and from authorizing others to commercially distribute and or use said books.

Commercial distribution and or use shall include, but is not limited to, publishing, manufacture, reproduction, sale, offer for sale, advertisement, transfer, lease, rental, and other dissemination, or encouraging, directly or indirectly, public consumption in any way of these books. Number two. The Eckers agree not to copy, paraphrase, excerpt, or otherwise duplicate the University of Science and Philosophy's copyrighted works, The Secret of Light, Atomic Suicide, the revised edition of A New Concept of the copies of the sacred spirit within, science of the cosmos, phone home ET, reach out and touch someone like God, human, the science of man, and matter, antimatter and what's the matter, which do not comply with the authorship designation provisions of paragraph 4 below. As used herein, commercial distribution and or commercial use shall have the same meaning as in paragraph 1 above. Number four, the Eckers agree not to copy, paraphrase, excerpt, or otherwise duplicate any version of the home study course and or the original version of a new concept of the universe without appropriate and accurate designation of authorship, which shall consist of a clear permanent demarcation within the text of each, and I'm missing a sentence here, a line, works as having been copied, paraphrased, excerpted, otherwise appropriated from, or containing identical or similar language as in said works and shall further consist of an attribution affixed permanently to the inside cover of any such work book or work which substantially complies with the form of The Sacred Spirit Within includes passages identical or similar to Dr. Walter Russell and Lau Russell's home study course.

The author's use of excerpts from Dr. and Lau Russell's home study course does not in any way constitute the Russell's endorsement in or approval of the content of this book. The Echres shall destroy all copies of AIDS the last great plague, murder by atomic suicide, God said let there be light and creation became and I and my father are one. The Greens had all the books. At that point, all of this was Green's doings because Eckers even had to purchase and all of the ones that would be around in the publication or the actual work of putting together journals had to buy, buy for Mr. Green and Mrs. Green their own copies. So Eckers would usually buy a carton. I'm sorry about that. Eckers would usually buy at least one case so that everybody who had participated in the book. Now, there's just something wrong here.

And Green continued to sell those books after having transferred them, given them to Rick Martin. Now, and when I say to Rick, that was to Hatchipee Distributing, so actually not to Rick. But Rick had every, every right. There had been no court encounters at all. Rick had every right to handle any books that he wanted to handle through tax-free distributing and did so. But Green knew that there was going to be an upheaval coming. Now Green not only continued to sell those books and then in turn billed tax-free distributing and Rick Martin, $82,000 I believe, for the inventory.

Plus, he was selling this whole series of books on credit cards because this was going to be a favor to Hatchpey Distributing. So he would take the order, run the credit card, send a note or call Rick and say, will you ship a set of these books? Now, a full year after all of this, people were still able in Canada and all around to get these books from George Green directly. But he could always argue that, well, there were only four of them. If we'd fix the other five, you know, to please him, nobody would have raised any eyebrows about it. Well, it was decided here that the best thing to do was just absolutely, these are dated periodicals, it isn't worth it, just don't have them.

If I want to write a book about the rest of, and let us remember that we're talking about at the most in all of the pages put together that could have been used from their resources, you're talking maybe 150 pages at most. Because you have to remember that in many of these journals and things, they're repeated. In the home study course, everything is repeated from Secrets of Light and Atomic Suicide and these other books by Walter. So you're probably talking not more than 50 pages of possible plagiarism. And every journal that we put together, therefore, could not have had more than 50 pages, ever. Everybody hear me so far? And every book that we have written averages a minimum of 200 pages. That's where we try to cut it off, so that we have extra room to put an index and so forth. So at the very most, we're talking 50 possible pages, and that is really stretching it, really stretching it.

And all of that would have come at the very least or very most from the home study course. So they don't have a case. They didn't have a case then. But look what they're doing. They are saying that even your own work as it comes back through your hands has to be destroyed to get there, to go on. And I and my father are one which are in their possession or control, or which come into their possession or control at any time. The Echre shall destroy all copies of the sacred spirit within, science of the cosmos, phone home E.T., reach out and touch someone like God, human, the science of man, and matter, antimatter, and what's the matter, which are in their possession or control, or which come into their possession or control at any time, which do not or cannot be made to comply with the authorship designation provisions set forth in paragraph 4 above.

The copies of books presently in the court's possession shall be disposed of through the court's usual method for disposal of documents, with the exception of copies of the book entitled Pleiades Connection, Volume 1, which shall be released to the Phoenix Institute. Let's go back and talk about, just for a second, AIDS, the last great plague. one or two or three references, and I'm talking about short references, to the treatment of AIDS by frequency and light, to which Walter Russell, Priori, Reif, all given full credit for anything that might have been integrated into that. This was talking about AIDS and HIV viruses. And as a matter of fact, almost the entire book was directly taken with permission from Robert Strecker's material.

So that's what we're talking about here. We're not even talking about very much use of their material. So it is really sick, though. Number six. The Eckers agree not to write, distribute, or encourage the distribution of libelous, defamatory, or otherwise false statements about the University of Science and Philosophy, Dr. Walter Russell, the Walter Russell Foundation, or Dr. Timothy A. Binder. The parties further stipulate and agree that the permanent injunction as entered by the court shall immediately be final and binding and subject to no attack by appeal or otherwise. I can't do what I did yesterday or I'm going to lose her. Okay, take a break.

Let's just take a break. Maybe we don't have to take so long or something, but let's digest that a little bit. And I was very unpopular last night when she's trying to go to sleep and has a splitting headache. So... Mark, this is an afternoon session and maybe if we could have another tape because we're going to turn to the Nevada circumstances. Do we need fresh tape? Is that what you're saying? Yes. Why don't you, because we're going to talk about the very thing.

Do you get your stuff filed yesterday? No, the stuff is not, in fact I haven't had a chance to talk to the court in Ron since yesterday, but I don't believe we're going to be using those attorneys either. Oh good, because we're going to butcher it up. I know without a doubt it's going to be butchered up with what we know and depending on what they're willing to do. And knowing Ron and Court both, I know that they would be willing to run a trial through with us. So going out to the public here? No, I'm not even sure. Well, I don't know if I'd go out to the public. It's just a new topic. Let me say why I'm asking. They're short on 90 minute tapes and I'm on my second 90 minute tape which I'm about three quarters of the way through on the first side.